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17 Ağustos 2012 Cuma

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do "we"? what do we stand for,  the grandness of a struggle for the "simplest, most apparent thing" does not make it particularly important for the person. it is the principle of the struggle for it and the struggle itself that makes it important. calling all couch potato atheists, there is no cause for a non thing which I sometimes fell just turns into license to curse and label people. arguing about the effects of the power structure is one thing and arguing over a thousand year book is another. atheism by itself is devoid of any meaning, merely suggesting a non-religious life, and I do not even think that atheism is a fundamental to comprehending dialectical historical materialism, or comprehending the deductions of it about modern society.  religions usually bare alternatives and political resistances within them and they have a culture of resistance, what is more they can generate or claim to generate substantial arguments and methods of internal collective action that appears just to the participants. so what is a feeling of justice for an atheist? what is a resistance against “religion” if not recognizing the irrelevance of idols and their stronghold on our lives. just as fascism begins between two people, the recognition and the dismantling and deconstructing the idols begins in the self, and taking one of the things that you are, that has no particular effect by itself for your life and using it to prove the non-factuality of something else that you already believe is rubbish seems like wasting your time when you could be arguing about the socialist and humanist dimensions of existence and finding ways for working together for immediate common needs such as food, health and education. all I am saying is that we need more space to agree to disagree not less, particularly for things concerning our more private relations and interactions with the world.

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  1. circular and self referring argument; what is a non-real life atheist anyway. what is the difference between a working class atheist and a capitalist/nationalist atheist, if not the struggle with ruling powers. atheism can tell us nothing about the structure of power and its effects and could merely point to one of the causes of it. this is like saying that if you could prove the non-scientificness or factuality of religion based on a thousand year doctrine you could dismantle capitalism. religion is primarily a claim to a belief system and can not be a prescription for a political economic system with it’s age old doctrine alone, and although religion can try to justify a a political economic system it has its own conflicts with it already, and fractions within it due to such conflicts. this is where one can find grounds for common political action. in trying to give you an insight into how a "working class" atheist translates to practicality in real life I would like to introduce you two of my tinfoil hatter friends http://
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Trotsky (for the possibilities of resistance within the struggle of the working class) and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Foucault (for the historical construction modern society and its underlying epistemology)

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